Episode 12: "CO-WORKER CORE" feat. billdifferen *FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*

Look at that still. What do they do? What happened with Brockhampton? They're all either abusers or groomers. There's like a 30-page Google Doc on allegations. It's crazy. There's only two good dudes in that whole 30,000. I feel like the title of this episode should be Nothing Sacred with Bill Differn. Nothing is sacred, bro. You're a media professional. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. We got him. Notorious homicide-loving hip-hopper Killer Mike, a.k.a. Shiller Mike, Misdemeanor Committer Mike, No Chill Having on Chiller Mike, a.k.a. not to fat shame but probably subsist on Kriller Mike, has officially been apprehended. Round of applause, please, by the listeners for the joint enforcement and legacy media operation that pulled it off. And just a round of applause, please, again, for the Grammy committee in general. They absolutely belted it. The one award showed it consistently break the internet year after year. Just a little pause here for a third round of applause. The listeners do a standing ovation in their prestige media offices or their sprawling goon multiplexes or wherever they happen to be listening.

Okay, plot twist. Plot twist. We're actually being cynical. We don't care about Gen X adult swim rap. We don't care about crime. And we definitely don't care about law enforcement overreach. And yeah, I'll say, we actually think the Grammys are irrelevant. yep we're saying it what we what we do think is relevant is the one man taste making enterprise run by bill ass different and that's why we have bill ass different with us today on the podcast bill different what's up what's up man what's up what's up um it's always so weird because people really think my name is bill i've gotten a bunch of times like hey bill what's up bill and i kind of just go with it you know What is your name? My name is Tyler, actually. It says Taylor on Twitter. Yeah, I'm looking at it. Yeah, the story behind that is because my girlfriend is Mexican. Her family is Mexican. And when I first, because we've been together for a long time now. When I first met them, they couldn't say my name, Tyler. So they just called me Taylor. And 10 years out, they still call me Taylor. So that's kind of the reason behind that. But also, it's just a fun way for people to think. My name's either Taylor or Bill, and I just roll with it, so it's kind of fun doing that, too. Do you want to tell us the names of your Mexican in-laws? Full names? Nah, we don't do that shit on here. I'm sorry, but we'll keep that on the down low. No extended family governments on platform. That's right, that's right. We don't want the SoundCloud and CIA officials to get on us. You know they're listening, though. You know they're taking note. Oh, yeah, they've got a big-ass pad and pin right now. a huge a huge and it's it's all it's all the more efficient because they also have huge ass magnifying glasses um so it really saves it really saves a lot of paper yeah that's true rob's it rob's in mexico right now oh word this is yeah i can't i can't beat that allegation who do you think i look like who do you think i look like i've just been looking at your twitter feed and

You're talking about the only celebrity comparison I've ever got. Uh, shit, I don't know. You can't figure it out? No, I mean, because... That baby? Yeah, you look like the Put Me On baby. Oh, I look like Boss Baby. I always forget that. No, Bottas. Yeah, you kind of do... Yeah, I'm looking out and out. Yeah, I kind of see it. Those are the only celebrity comparisons I get. You don't look in pain like him, so that's why I couldn't get it like that. In pain like Boss Baby? Yeah, but like Boss Baby and both of us, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's the non-Boss Baby? What celebrities do people say you look like? Me? Shit. That's a good question. I don't really get a lot. I remember at the beginning of college... i guess because i was like more skinnier i used to get like uh john snow from uh from fucking game of thrones a lot and i used to and from there i just never watched i never wanted to watch the show because of that so i was just like fuck that shit but i don't really get a lot of comparisons to people uh i'll put on my video for a little bit i'll give y'all what i look like because i really don't show pictures of myself yeah that's what this is what i look like so i wasn't i wasn't i wasn't asking for that man so appreciate it oh i mean yeah i was i was kind of like scared for a moment because like i had to put on some clothes like i was like i don't want to look like a fucking like hobo because i mean i already am you can pod naked for sure and also you you you look housed and for that i commend you nah i'm in my mama's basement dude A roof is a roof. If I wasn't in Mexico right now, I'd be in my parents' basement. So, you know, don't worry. Thank you for, I mean, beyond the Jon Snow comparison, the other Game of Thrones parallel I draw is that on this podcast, we drink and we know things. Jesus Christ. What we know about is...

I mean, just per introduction for the uninitiated, Bill Different, as mentioned prior, is something of a one-man taste-making enterprise. Put really simply, you're a music nerd on Twitter, as well as your own website, who is really, really, really freakishly good at finding music. I feel like you're as close to underground, ground zero, as is humanly possible. um do you want to like is that does that is that accurate how would you how do you like introduce what you do i don't know i don't see myself in a good life so i'm like ah but like people always like man you find shit from i don't know because i've always been like that because like when i was a teenager like early 2010s so like i was kind of like the advent of like internet music and i was kind of like there for everything so i think from there i just guess just being there i guess like being like a 17 18 year old at the time of like when young lean and like drain gang and like black cray and all that shit i guess that was kind of like the first step of like me getting into all that shit and another thing that got me into that like i guess discovering mode i guess you could say is unfortunately horrible place 4chan is a horrible place i'll preface that but the mu uh subred uh subreddit i call it a fucking subreddit bro uh this the board on the music board on there i used to go on there a lot and i used to discover a lot of fucking music and i'll preface that the four like the if you ever seen the mu essential charts that's the biggest bullshit list of music you ever seen in your life but there used to be back in the day i don't know uh like it's like my beautiful dark twisted fantasy love like love it's like all like baby's first you know good albums that they listen to like 15 but like you got motherfuckers who are like 27 still talking about that shit it's like come on like get a rest but on there they used to be like share threads and like from there that's where i kind of learned from like different genres like different types of music all over the country because like I'm a homebody I guess you can say I've always been kind of just you know on the internet slight looking for shit so I guess I guess just being on the internet for so long has got me into that and I don't think that it didn't get really fucked up until like the pandemic obviously because like I was in college so like I didn't really have all that time to kind of go through like

fucking taiwanese pop music from like on soundcloud like little shit like that like i was always kind of tapped in but not tapped in until like i guess the pandemic where i was kind of stuck at home and just like oh like oh all this shit on soundcloud that i didn't know about and stuff like that and then from there i just kind of exponentially got fucking crazy as time went on bring back lockdown can i get an amen no but uh i mean i've always people over the years if i was told me like hey getting the music writing hey getting the music writing and shit and like i was just like no like i was always kind of like reading stuff and like people would tell me to do it and i just never did until like like i was accidentally put into this shit loki because like a dude um like actually messaged me on discord one time asking me about like a music scene called daria chord this is like 2021 um he was just asking me shit on discord and i just messaged him i was like giving him shit like letting him know like a day later he posted my words on his blog without like my permission or anything and i was like what the fuck but like everyone's like oh that's cool you should do more and i was like that's literally how i became all this bullshit just like i was accidentally gonna post like an article just a discord message of mine so like i said all this all this shit's accidental once you're a public figure uh all everything you say is a free-for-all for the world public uh i suggest you you um acclimate to it as as reluctantly have yeah yeah do you want to like wait the the dark core that was wasn't that was that dlt uh yeah uh jane remover um yes that was kind of her that she started i don't really talk about it anymore because i feel like she don't like it that much and i feel like now that she's kind of big she'll get like cia agents to come to my house and get me so so i don't kind of mention that but yeah it's cool it was kind of a fad and all those internet kids kind of make all right music now it's kind of a flash in the pan type of thing

so how did uh can you maybe i mean you mentioned the pandemic and that being how things kind of kick started for you but do you want to like take us through kind of the the journey from then to now from you being so like anon to one of the most vital a vital voice uh yeah no i i feel like the one person i feel like there's two people instrumental to like all this kind of fucking happening and first is uh naz um he used to run cocaine blunts blog like a hip-hop blog um i joined his discord back at the beginning of the pandemic and that was kind of the avenue that got me more into like music discovery and kind of just like i guess music right because i was like i read a lot of music writing back in the day but i didn't really kind of get into it that much like I didn't know like a lot of writers I didn't like I go on Pitchfork I go on like fact mag fucking bullshit back in the day and just kind of read sparingly but I never was like into like music writing I like blogging in particular but I joined that discord and that kind of got me like more in the know of things like like beforehand like you know Alphonse Pierre like he's he's the goat in my opinion right now like that dude's like the best writer in the world when it comes to music writing but like people like that was the kind of the avenue that got me into that discord and then I just kept posting and i at the beginning i was like damn i'm not fucking tapped in whatsoever and i think that's what kind of gave me like a kick in the butt to like discover more and then like with the pandemic there was like really nothing to do so all i was just doing was just like listening to music non-stop so like before like it just kept going and going and going and then like i said i accidentally posted they accidentally posted that daria core thing and more people like was like reading it and it kind of blew my mind for a second and to me like

More than 20, 30 people reading my shit still blows my mind. And I still get like, I get like 3,000, 4,000 now. And it's still like boggles my brain that that many people are aware of kind of my bullshit. But I don't know. Like I just kept posting and posting. And like, for example, like Jersey Club, that was kind of the next thing I posted after Daria Corp was like something about Jersey Club. Because that was kind of something I've always kind of admired over the years. And that was kind of like, I guess the first thing that I made that I kind of was like. yeah I should start doing this more and then from there I guess just like I said earlier it's just like exponentially just getting into it it's just just kind of just the only way to kind of discover music in my opinion is like doing the work you know people kind of rely on like playlists and like algorithms no like you gotta like go into like this shit especially SoundCloud for as broken as a website it is like website made in [redacted address] that I kind of discover shit and I still do it the same today is like going through like related artists going through artists likes like people don't do that shit because they lazy as fuck like that's kind of i can't really say it any other way like people just want everything kind of spoon fed to them which is why i kind of make my blog posts like super i guess information filled because i know motherfuckers are not gonna spend two or three hours scrolling through soundcloud like going through different artists that's why i want to make sure you know everything's in one place and you know and that's why sometimes i get messages sometimes of people like hey your website's broken i can't go through anything it's like yeah because it's like 850 fucking hyperlinks in there but like i don't know i just want people to get off their ass and discover more because i feel like they'd be more me as if people would actually give a fuck and actually you know want to like discover this shit because i just feel like you just have to put in the work to actually you know be seen i feel like yeah i feel like there's nothing more than that i feel like it isn't too complicated it's just like you know put in the work um actually you know actually like music i feel like motherfuckers just don't like music like you like the people like writing about oh because you know pitchfork being gutted sucks obviously you know gq's piece of shit like millennial male music whatever the fuck they were saying but i don't know just like nobody's talking about music

like at all like there's only like five or six writers talking about music like or like for example i don't give a fuck about the talking heads cover album like 800 000 articles about the teaser touchdown cover i don't give a fucking shit like just like write about like something different like i just wish people would do that more but he wants to be interesting so so he wants to be like a kooky sort of like he's like he's like 33 bro like fucking it's 401k time kill yourself You're going to kill yourself. It's over. Yeah, like, I don't know. Just people care about, like, the wrong shit. Like, there's so much cool shit happening, and just nobody cares. So that's why I kind of do the shit. So I put a lot of hours, and, like, I'm glad people, like, especially y'all, like, when I got this message, I was like, what the fuck are these people going to ask me? Like, I didn't really know what to expect, but, like, I don't know. I'm glad people, not just y'all, but other people kind of see me as this, like. quote-unquote vital tastemakers and shit but i mean i feel like i just have to go harder harder three days yeah i mean so these you've said a lot that i uh i think we all kind of want to like piece by piece get into you you cover a lot of ground there i guess like i so as far as my my own personal relation to what you do is concerned like i i was first put on to you maybe like two and a half years ago um i was in la it's do you happen to know these guys deleted sounds familiar these guys so so many people on the internet that's yeah i mean i feel like there's an answer your chance would have come across them at some point but it's this kind of like crew of i guess like ambient adjacent they hate the word ambient but i'm gonna call them like ambient adjacent kind of musicians um with lilick and one of the guys who runs it he goes by um forever fc uh he put me on to you um and at first you were kind of this sort of like as as as many artists this kind of like voiceless new music vehicle that i've used to populate my own particular feed with just a pure kind of like faceless content provider um but it's interesting that in the time since you've kind of carved out a spot for yourself uh uh as a quote as a quote-unquote vital voice uh it's funny it's funny to me to see

um guys like uh joshua minsu kim the pitchfork tone glow guy um like you know putting your mom allying himself with you um i feel like the the john caramonica of the new york times probably has is at least aware of you yeah so my question is how do i get put on by joshua minsu kim i mean he's cool no that's I don't really talk to a lot of music writers. No, like, no bullshit. But, like, that's one I kind of talk to on a regular basis. That's a goofy dude. Like, he'll be, like, right now, he's talking about puppet theater for the past, like, two weeks. He's been going to puppet shows. And I'm just like, yep, that's the most Josh Amitsu Kim shit I've ever heard. But, no, he's a very fan. But enough about the election. Puppet show. exactly he just be bringing up the most ran and she's like oh yeah i'm gonna go to puppet shows i'm gonna write about he's like any messages this morning's like i wrote 5 000 words about puppet shows and i'm like i can't even write 100 words on anything right now and you're writing 5 000 on puppet shows but dude he's a take machine i don't know i don't know how he does it he has these all these like incredibly well formulated potent like i i don't know how he operates like he's a he's a fucking school teacher And, like, he runs Tone Glue, like, on his own dime and everything. Like, it's insane. And they're like, oh, I'm going right after school. I'm going to, like, three concerts and, like, a fucking avant-garde movie afterwards. And I'm like, dude, once I'm off of work, I'm, like, crawling into bed. Like, it's insane. It's a miraculous thing that anyone can formulate, like, a coherent viral baiting take, just one in a given week. And the ray at which he's able to consistently put them out is his goals. I would love to I would love to puppeteer the music discourse in the way in the way that he's. Yeah, no. Yeah, that was kind of one of the first people that I was like, holy shit, like people know who I am. But now that I kind of know him personally, it's like, wow, that dude's a goof. But now he's a very lovely person. You're in, you said Louisiana, right?

Yeah, I'm from Louisiana, but I live in Texas. I live born and raised like outside of Lafayette. It's like the other south side of Louisiana. So everybody thinks I'm like from New Orleans, but I'm like the other southwest Louisiana. And I didn't move to Texas, which is around the Houston region until like 2011, 2012. And then I've just been in Texas since. And that's the Tex and Tex-Mex cuisine, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Do you ever come across Barrow being in Texas? Who does the Contain podcast? No, I have not. I'm a very low-key person. I don't really mingle with a lot of folks outside of the internet. Nah, there's too many people in Texas. Especially with me, I kind of live in the middle of nowhere. so like all the cities are like hours out so if I want to go to a show I either gotta like drive two three hours out to even go somewhere so it's like I always gotta like pick and choose where I want to go see and I don't know I feel like the music like a lot of the concerts in Dallas and Houston suck so lately I kind of just been not like wasting my time to go drive over there and then like clamber back home to like go to work and shit but like yeah it is kind of a because I used to like live more closer to Houston but I ever since I went to college i moved like two hours north of houston so i've kind of just been in this like piney wood middle of nowhere type of place and i think that's also another thing that's kind of i guess my location now it's kind of made me go more into like discovering music because i ain't fucking shit to do here like there's only one music venue and it's for like country music so like i don't got really anything i can kind of do like in my out of life like the most i do is like driver there's a lot of scenic roads i like to just drive and like listen to music that's really what i kind of do over here for sure what's uh what's your relationship to country like being in being in texas um um i mean because it's funny because my dad's family's mexican and my mom's family's like cajun white so like as a kid i was that's kind of like one of the first genres i was raised on was country music so like that's like a picture of me was like two or three like apparently i like fucked with jenna twain

Let's go, girl. One of my first Christmases, I got a Shania Twain VHS. Country's cool. There's some good country artists. George Strait's cool. I used to go to the rodeo in Houston every now and then to go watch a... I really don't know most of the people's catalogs, but it's fun to go watch country music, I guess. Modern country kind of sucks, though, for sure. I didn't watch the Grammys, so I just saw the Luke Combs guy and I was like... This dude looks like a fucking dumbass, like, singing next to Tracy Chapman. Yeah, I don't know. Country music's weird. Like, y'all haven't seen, like, Jelly Roll? That guy looks hilarious. We'll be right back. What's up? He's like Machine Gun Kelly for like a gastric bypass surgery. Oh, fucking hell. He makes like country rap type stuff. It's not good. He looks like, he's kind of like Evil Post Malone. Like Evil Cooper in the third season of Twin Peaks. Yeah, Evil Post. Yeah, no, no, I see that. Fucking man. You don't like Morgan Wallen? I was literally just about to ask that. Hell no, dude. Like, I don't know. I'm not a fan. I know Hucko S did that one. And like, that's the only time I ever listened to Morgan Wallen more than once. I hear Morgan Wallen a lot over here, though. Like, go out in public or like somebody's truck. It's either that or like. i said one thing i i like i live like kind of like all like the intersect and road so i hear a lot of the car that's one thing i like to do like hear what's coming out of people's cars and see the like really shitty country music or like a young boy i hear a lot of young boy like almost every day or like uh you're like no cap i hear like just a bunch of like different rappers it's kind of cool to see like the different regional rap that's kind of like mixed around here because it's not houston rap it's not dallas rap it's like it's just a kind of agglomerative like

all like the big cities in the south so it's kind of cool to like see that who's the other like he's like this like i guess like thug ballad guy not rilo rodriguez he's like rod wave rod wave yeah yeah yeah yeah i was just kind of have you seen the video of him at his concerts he's like jumping off the balcony that's all i could see when you were saying that like like there's like there's like a part of the show he just like climbs up a balcony and he just like falls off like on like a on like this like inflatable pad and it's like a big old deal i think i've seen that video like a hundred times it's rod wave was born in 1998 this dude looks so old I still can't stop looking at Jelly Roll, man. I'm so surprised. This is what Aisha Bronson would look like if he wasn't Albanian. Stresses me out, man. Shouts at him, but stresses me out. Look at him. Aisha Bronson or Jelly Roll? No, I would not go with Action Rock. I'd go with Jailoreau. I don't know if Jailoreau did any bad things, but actually, Bronson does some bad shit. I don't fuck with him. Wait, what's he done this bad? His music. His music, for sure. But no, I think back in the day, he like bought like a trampoline or something. Something like that. He bought what? He was like, I ain't never been about. You're a splash of niggas. You're in and out. Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people

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